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Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:01 pm
by Annoyed
What is wrong with you people?
Will nothing ever make you happy? Do you honestly take pleasure in putting down other people, 12 year olds included? Jealousy sure doesn’t look good on you :)

Titans got dissed on this site for the poor performance at Shanahan. Two months later they make it to finals of GTHL Challenge Cup and lose in Triple OT against the 2nd ranked team in Ontario, and they still get dissed!!
Does this not show the development that everyone claims is lacking??
Kudos to the coaching staff for developing these kids and bringing them together to actually work as a team – obviously something is working!

The trash that gets posted on this site is nothing more than cyber bullying – you should all be ashamed of yourselves. I’m sure your spouse / child would be mortified to find out what you discreetly post when no one else is around.
“If you have nothing nice to say, then say nothing at all” – some words of wisdom for you!
Or go ahead and keep posting your trash…..karma is a bitch, and guaranteed she will eventually find you.

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:21 pm
by Guest
Lol, yeah I'm sure you never diss anyone behind their back. It's so obvious who you are mom.

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:41 pm
by Annoyed
Definitely not who you are thinking of....

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:07 pm
by Guest
Annoyed wrote:What is wrong with you people?
Will nothing ever make you happy? Do you honestly take pleasure in putting down other people, 12 year olds included? Jealousy sure doesn’t look good on you :)

Titans got dissed on this site for the poor performance at Shanahan. Two months later they make it to finals of GTHL Challenge Cup and lose in Triple OT against the 2nd ranked team in Ontario, and they still get dissed!!
Does this not show the development that everyone claims is lacking??
Kudos to the coaching staff for developing these kids and bringing them together to actually work as a team – obviously something is working!

The trash that gets posted on this site is nothing more than cyber bullying – you should all be ashamed of yourselves. I’m sure your spouse / child would be mortified to find out what you discreetly post when no one else is around.
“If you have nothing nice to say, then say nothing at all” – some words of wisdom for you!
Or go ahead and keep posting your trash…..karma is a bitch, and guaranteed she will eventually find you.



Don't be so naive and think because of some success in the "win" column, that all the negatives are erased. Here's some words of wisdom for you. It's that you won, it's how you won. Did you shorten your bench, ride one kid the entire time, etc. Does your team act as a tier 1 team, and provide a quality product to the players and their parents who pay.

Get over yourself.

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:10 pm
by Guest
That's the problem with minor hockey. Mom and people like her think winning solves everything. I still can't believe the Titans hired a parent who has never been a head coach at any level. I have never heard of a guy getting a AAA job for his 1st time coaching. It's crazy!

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:59 pm
by Guest
Does anyone on here have nice kitties?

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:28 am
by Guest
Any truth that league may dismantle after this season?

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:30 am
by Guest
Guest wrote:Any truth that league may dismantle after this season?


Never heard anything like that but it would be nice if they revisited the U17 option.

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:26 pm
by Guest
At the beginning of this season there was talk of AA taking over AAA next season.. (ie. AA becoming the Tier 1 option for Ottawa) .. but I have not heard anything from any reliable source lately.

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:32 pm
by Guest
Speaking from personal experience, the U18 league is atrocious for Ottawa Players long term success.

(1) Ottawa players do not play against other Ontario teams to compare skillset. Due to U18, they are unable to enter any tournaments including the OHL Cup.
(2) The U18 product is quite low quality. All of the top 16 year olds have moved onto a higher league. That leaves 15 year olds playing with Tier 2 level 16 year olds who are around the same level. This results in no standouts and a flat league of average skill level.

If you wanted to give these young players any chance of future success, this U18 system has to be revamped. Put 1-2 teams of the top 15 year olds together.. Let them go to 5 out of town tournaments to really compete and try to impress scouts.

Watch the drafts... I predict:
(1) Very few (<5) local players/yr will end up playing in the OHL
(2) Very few (<20) local players will end up playing Junior A CCHL..
(3) Very few (<5) local players/yr will end up playing in the NCAA.

Bottom line, head scouts have to rely on their local scouts to assess these kids. These Ottawa players have had limited exposure to the scouts. If you want to chase the dream, send your son away from Ottawa for exposure (personally I think this is stupid, but some will still do it)...

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:06 pm
by Guest
AAA is toast. AA will run tier 1 up to major Bantam and then you'll have the jr teams take over.

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:16 pm
by Guest
Guest wrote:Speaking from personal experience, the U18 league is atrocious for Ottawa Players long term success.

(1) Ottawa players do not play against other Ontario teams to compare skillset. Due to U18, they are unable to enter any tournaments including the OHL Cup.
(2) The U18 product is quite low quality. All of the top 16 year olds have moved onto a higher league. That leaves 15 year olds playing with Tier 2 level 16 year olds who are around the same level. This results in no standouts and a flat league of average skill level.

If you wanted to give these young players any chance of future success, this U18 system has to be revamped. Put 1-2 teams of the top 15 year olds together.. Let them go to 5 out of town tournaments to really compete and try to impress scouts.

Watch the drafts... I predict:
(1) Very few (<5) local players/yr will end up playing in the OHL
(2) Very few (<20) local players will end up playing Junior A CCHL..
(3) Very few (<5) local players/yr will end up playing in the NCAA.

Bottom line, head scouts have to rely on their local scouts to assess these kids. These Ottawa players have had limited exposure to the scouts. If you want to chase the dream, send your son away from Ottawa for exposure (personally I think this is stupid, but some will still do it)...


What is your personal experience? I'm assuming your kid plays in the league.

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:24 pm
by Guest
Let's face it, if your kid has any chance of playing hockey after his minor hockey days are done, he will stand out at 15. If your 15 yr old can't make teams within the U18 league, then he isn't really elite, and he won't be playing any hockey after midget.

What are you trying to get out of the midget tier 1 experience?? If you're chasing the dream, you should have a pretty good idea what your kid's chances are at 15 years old. Is there a chance he's a late bloomer at 16, sure, slim, but it may happen. Even then, he has to bloom into a "dominant" player, not just get a little better.

I am no expert, but from what I have read and the people I have spoken to, the Jr. A league in the Ottawa area, is very well regarded and putting out some decent numbers of players to NCAA. The U18 league exposes all these kids to that league, and a more "realistic" chance of getting to the next level of hockey.

If you are chasing the OHL path though, chase away. Your kid needs to be the top dog and if he's that good, it doesn't matter where he plays.

The talent pool for top AAA level kids is condensed as you now have a three year window of players on the same team. Elite players that are younger will be able to make this level.

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:37 pm
by Guest
Guest wrote:Speaking from personal experience, the U18 league is atrocious for Ottawa Players long term success.

(1) Ottawa players do not play against other Ontario teams to compare skillset. Due to U18, they are unable to enter any tournaments including the OHL Cup.
(2) The U18 product is quite low quality. All of the top 16 year olds have moved onto a higher league. That leaves 15 year olds playing with Tier 2 level 16 year olds who are around the same level. This results in no standouts and a flat league of average skill level.

If you wanted to give these young players any chance of future success, this U18 system has to be revamped. Put 1-2 teams of the top 15 year olds together.. Let them go to 5 out of town tournaments to really compete and try to impress scouts.

Watch the drafts... I predict:
(1) Very few (<5) local players/yr will end up playing in the OHL
(2) Very few (<20) local players will end up playing Junior A CCHL..
(3) Very few (<5) local players/yr will end up playing in the NCAA.

Bottom line, head scouts have to rely on their local scouts to assess these kids. These Ottawa players have had limited exposure to the scouts. If you want to chase the dream, send your son away from Ottawa for exposure (personally I think this is stupid, but some will still do it)...

The unsupported numbers are about equal to or greater then past years in Ottawa for kids moving on in hockey.
If your kids only reason to play hockey is to be scouted id have him pick up a new sport .

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:45 pm
by Guest
Could be wrong but I don't really think its an exposure problem with being in Ottawa. I think the problem is that its very difficult for many 15 year old's to make these teams and get ice time. The coaches will most likely try to win and will pick the older players. Even if the 15 year old does make it, he's in tough to get ice time. Not great for keeping 15 year old's in the game and developing them.

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:58 pm
by Guest
The U18 is a concern for 2002. We have 2 more year before it affect our kids. It will be re evaluate next year.

The problem with the league is top 16 and 17 are in the ohl or Jr A. So your 15 yr old is playing against older B kids. Hopefully he is fast and keeps his head up.

The u18 is simply money grab by Jr A clubs

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:00 pm
by Guest
Guest wrote:Could be wrong but I don't really think its an exposure problem with being in Ottawa. I think the problem is that its very difficult for many 15 year old's to make these teams and get ice time. The coaches will most likely try to win and will pick the older players. Even if the 15 year old does make it, he's in tough to get ice time. Not great for keeping 15 year old's in the game and developing them.


But if that's the case, as it usually is, the player is not elite, and has no real shot of being able to play beyond midget. We are talking about the extreme few players who move on. If the 15 year old is a late bloomer, lacks size or whatever, he can play AA for a year. If he does't "dominate" that level then he really is just a very good hockey player, not elite, and his organized/minor hockey days will be done at the end of midget.

Development is a very polarizing topic in and of itself. Nobody really has a definition of development beyond an end evaluation of a player who has elite skills. There is no plan that ANY coaches follow for development, and the existing models are laughed at by most. Your closest concept of development will be achieved by going to a private coach, either skating or skills, and sticking with them over time. NO leagues or teams have any idea what development means. They love to banter around the term, but in reality you get the ideas of whatever coach they hired for that year.

The U18 league is no different in that regard.

Regarding the above post, you could say the same thing about Major midget, in that the best players are in junior already. No difference.

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:02 pm
by Guest
Any rumours about kids going to Toronto?
I heard 2 are coming back, don't believe it.

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:04 pm
by Guest
That sounds like a stretch. I don't see that many 16 year old's playing Jr A. Some, yes, but not many.

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:14 pm
by Guest
The league was touted as a way to keep more young players in the game. I think its failing 15 year old's in that regard.

Another problem is that the league will draft players and control where you can play. You could live in Orleans and be drafted by Brockville. That's a bit extreme for most families.