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Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Post by Guest » Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:31 am

Guest wrote:Cyclones are terrible! Should be in AA.

Coming from the team that lost to the Sens ..interesting

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Post by Guest » Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:24 am

Cyclones are terrible! Should be in AA.

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Post by Guest » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:27 pm

Thanks for high jacking a post....Jack arses

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Post by Guest » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:53 pm

nice to see everyone is getting along! ;) :roll:

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Post by Guest » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:00 am

No standouts period in our area. We'll see by major Bantam if anybody stands out.

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Post by Guest » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:50 pm

No disrespect but Ottawa goalies are average at best.

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Post by Guest » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:24 pm

Guest wrote:Any rumours about kids going to Toronto?
I heard 2 are coming back, don't believe it.


heard of one coming back but also heard one of the top goalies from Ottawa going to the GTHL next year

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Post by Guest » Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:36 am

Yes they do and that's why minor midget with 5 AAA teams has the kids that still want to play top level hockey against the same age peers.

putting 15 year olds in the U18 was a bad idea.

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Post by Guest » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:59 am

Part of that is kids that age will begin to stop playing. Other interests come into play. Cars, girls, jobs, etc.

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Post by Guest » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:57 am

Guest wrote:The U18 was the Jr A clubs fooling parents into believing that more kids would stay in the game.
The reality is few teams in total. Check out the number of AAA, AA, and B teams over years 2012 to now. Total number drops from 57 to 44.
You get more tier 1 teams, but less tier 2 and 3.
So tier 1 get diluted and everyone is paying more.

Shame on HEO for getting fooled
Our kids deserve better.


Why not just bring back the MM league bringing back 10 teams. Problem solved.

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Post by Guest » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:55 am

The U18 was the Jr A clubs fooling parents into believing that more kids would stay in the game.
The reality is few teams in total. Check out the number of AAA, AA, and B teams over years 2012 to now. Total number drops from 57 to 44.
You get more tier 1 teams, but less tier 2 and 3.
So tier 1 get diluted and everyone is paying more.

Shame on HEO for getting fooled
Our kids deserve better.

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Post by Guest » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:34 am

Agreed. I think that's the best of both worlds. Lets the 15 year old's compete and get scouted provincially and also gives the 16-17 year olds more options to keep playing.

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Post by Guest » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:21 am

minor midget should be the last year of AAA then go on with the U18 model. Let the kids compete on a level playing field till they are 15. Then the kids have some choice continue with U18 or Jr B/C.

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Post by Guest » Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:53 am

Personally I think they should have Minor Midget for 15 year olds at AA and AAA and I really dont care about the business model of it all, its not about the dream, its about the benefits of keeping our kids busy and engaged in competitive sport. Yes there are many other things they can do as well.

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Post by Guest » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:25 pm

Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:@ 3:22, of course there are those options, but if you end up playing there, the dream is over. There is a big difference between playing only for the love of the game and playing with aspirations of something more. If you are only playing for the love of the game it wouldn't matter the level.

@ 3:31, isn't it a good though no that we have more of our kids still playing hockey at 16-17?!?!


If you aren't playing for the love of the game then the dream is over regardless.



I couldn't agree more, but people aren't complaining about the U18 league because kids they are losing their love of the game. They are complaining because of perceived lack of development and/or lack of visibility to scouts.

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Post by Guest » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:06 pm

Guest wrote:@ 3:22, of course there are those options, but if you end up playing there, the dream is over. There is a big difference between playing only for the love of the game and playing with aspirations of something more. If you are only playing for the love of the game it wouldn't matter the level.

@ 3:31, isn't it a good though no that we have more of our kids still playing hockey at 16-17?!?!


If you aren't playing for the love of the game then the dream is over regardless.

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Post by Guest » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:00 pm

Is there more kids playing at 16-17?
We have more tier 1 teams, 12 vs 10
But we lost 10 tier 2 teams, AA has been force to a single age.
So is better or simply different?

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Post by Guest » Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:49 pm

@ 3:22, of course there are those options, but if you end up playing there, the dream is over. There is a big difference between playing only for the love of the game and playing with aspirations of something more. If you are only playing for the love of the game it wouldn't matter the level.

@ 3:31, isn't it a good though no that we have more of our kids still playing hockey at 16-17?!?!

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Post by Guest » Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:31 pm

Yes, they sold as keeping more players in the game.
Reality, more players and more money for them.

As per 16 playing jr A, you need to be very good to play after midget. Most are beer leaguers.

The CCHL web sites as of who moved on to CIS, major, and NCAA

Meireles did play Jr A at 16 and moved to ohl.

Re: Ottawa 04 AAA 2016/17

Post by Guest » Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:22 pm

Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:Could be wrong but I don't really think its an exposure problem with being in Ottawa. I think the problem is that its very difficult for many 15 year old's to make these teams and get ice time. The coaches will most likely try to win and will pick the older players. Even if the 15 year old does make it, he's in tough to get ice time. Not great for keeping 15 year old's in the game and developing them.


But if that's the case, as it usually is, the player is not elite, and has no real shot of being able to play beyond midget. We are talking about the extreme few players who move on. If the 15 year old is a late bloomer, lacks size or whatever, he can play AA for a year. If he does't "dominate" that level then he really is just a very good hockey player, not elite, and his organized/minor hockey days will be done at the end of midget.

Development is a very polarizing topic in and of itself. Nobody really has a definition of development beyond an end evaluation of a player who has elite skills. There is no plan that ANY coaches follow for development, and the existing models are laughed at by most. Your closest concept of development will be achieved by going to a private coach, either skating or skills, and sticking with them over time. NO leagues or teams have any idea what development means. They love to banter around the term, but in reality you get the ideas of whatever coach they hired for that year.

The U18 league is no different in that regard.

Regarding the above post, you could say the same thing about Major midget, in that the best players are in junior already. No difference.


If a kid wants to keep playing after midget and isn't considered 'elite', there are other options. Jr B and Jr C to name a few. It's even possible to keep developing in those leagues and move on to higher levels. U18 is not the end of the line if a kid really loves the game.

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