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Ottawa AA 04 2017/18

by Guest » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:28 am

Guest wrote:There’s a couple with S7 that are unbearable. They go after kids constantly and try to get them off the team. There’s something deeply wrong with these people. Unfortunately they’re tight with the executives so they get away with this abhorrent behaviour.


I was actually talking about another team but suspected it relates to one than one team.

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2010 GTHL AAA

by Guest » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:53 am

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Guest wrote:EB2 won the canlan last weekend, but had some helpers

looks like just a mix of tier 1 kids from last year

see what happens


How is this a bad thing?

"looks like just a mix of tier 1 kid from last year"


oh sorry, i didn't mean it as a bad thing, just statement and we see where they end up


Checked Canlan roster and stats and all of their top performers are on other teams. Based on ACTUAL roster EB2 will likely end up in T2 for the winter season, book it.


Looking up rosters, checking stats in June from other teams. lol.
How about Worrying about your own kids team , your kid is a superstar we all get it.

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Ottawa AA 04 2017/18

by Guest » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:26 am

There’s a couple with S7 that are unbearable. They go after kids constantly and try to get them off the team. There’s something deeply wrong with these people. Unfortunately they’re tight with the executives so they get away with this abhorrent behaviour.

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I'm a cross ice convert

by Guest » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:33 am

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BS, name one. Besides you said “people in the know,” I listed many many people who have tons of credibility, you have zero. A volunteer exec from the NYHL is more in the know that the list provided?!?!

Keep trying.


This is a ridiculous line of conversation. Who cares who is putting their name down in support of this. Auston Matthews supports it of course, the same way many of the Canadian players support full ice - it's what they grew up playing and what they think is best.

The reality is that there is no evidence to support cross ice has any impact on development at this point. In 10 years we may or may not be able to argue that it has had an impact. The other thing is that we are talking about a change to playing games, which at Tyke and below levels represents 25% of the time on the ice (give or take) - where practices are not going to change, so how are you going to prove that the cross ice even has an impact?

My opinion is that the kids are going to develop pretty much exactly the same because practices are going to be pretty much the same under either format. The difference now is going to be that the kids will have virtually the same level of skill, but no understanding of how a hockey game is actually played. After a year of cross ice, I've seen the better kids still dominate play, possibly improve in small area battles, rarely attempt to play defense and seldom pass the puck as they don't need to with it being just as easy to take a few strides and be in a scoring position.

The weaker players still rarely touch the puck and never get quality puck touches because they don't have enough time and space to do much other than slap the puck away.

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2006 GTHL AA West

by Guest » Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:19 am

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Guest wrote:Where did JA and his superstar kid end up this year?


Aves.

Terriers


It’s either prison or the GTC.

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What is going on in Midget AAA

by Guest » Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:01 pm

Guest wrote:Nat have 4 Brampton 2001 players signed. 3 forwards and 1 Defense



That is excellent news for the rest of the loop.

If the AC from Brampton also has some influence on the bench then that is more good news for the loop.

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I'm a cross ice convert

by Guest » Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:16 pm

I disagree with you about discounting such a study. A scientific study led by a rigorous scientist would account for margin of error. But your reference point of tournament results does not provide evidence about cross ice versus full ice. That's where your error is. As you acknowledge there are many differences, it is impossible to tell which ones or which combination of them have led to these results.

However, I am pretty sure you are likely to believe that if you take an absolute beginner set of 5 year old identical twins, and the only exposure you give them to skating and hockey, whereby one plays 10 cross ice games and the other 10 full ice games, the cross ice twin is likely to have progressed further in all core skills.

This scenario is the only type of study you need to understand the point of cross ice focus. I know you would like game results as your measurement to fully convince you, but in reality this simplified test with groups of kids is all you need.

I think almost all hockey experts, even those wanting to continue with full ice, would see the same outcome in the above scenario regarding skill development.[/quote]



The guy you are responding to talks out of both sides of his mouth. He wants scientific studies fldoewcrly related to cross ice ho key to prove it’s worth, but uses anecdotal support for why he believes it doesn’t. He’s simple. He just doesn't like It. He can’t provide anyone involved in hockey who supports his position. He says every person I support if it is on the kool aid. Some big big names on that list. His list is still zero.

He doesn’t matter.

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ETA 2003 predictions

by Guest » Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:53 am

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Guest wrote:Funny, no one is talking about the bottom feeder teams much...what about all of the talent on OG and CT??? :lol:

Kingston will be lower than these teams this year lol

Really ? Why ? I understood they cleared out the bottom section of the team .

Nope 3 aaa caliber players left and were replaced by houseleaguers. this team wont get 20 points


Thats not the way i heard it , but who knows . So you are saying the AA team will be OMHA bound ?

No but will finally win some games and make the playoffs which is a drastic improvement

Must have been bottom end AAA players if they cant lead an AA team deep into the OMHA playdowns


Nobody is touching NN at AA in their loop, they could probably beat 3-4 teams in the ETA in the standings.


Nobody in this thread cares...

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I'm a cross ice convert

by Guest » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:25 am


When I say they have done nothing else....what in their training to coaches has changed? What in their training guidelines has changed? The answer to both of these questions is ....... nothing. The "curriculum" (for lack of a better word) has not changed. Only the classroom has changed. Does a shiny bright new classroom mean you kid is going to be smarter?[/quote]



First of all cross ice games requires no curriculum. Secondly, the LTAD approach is being taught to coaches for a while, and just like the NYHL’s refusal to listen to the guidelines given to them, coaches are choosing not to follow what had been taught.

That’s your problem. The kids still skate, handle the puck, shoot, pass etc. They just have more opportunity to do so, so they learn more. The classroom is better. Get with the program.

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Top 05 AAA players

by Guest » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:21 pm

Guest wrote:AR going to MM next year with KC done deal


lol not a chance